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Simon Furst's avatar

Thank you for this

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Kalmen Barkin's avatar

I’m very OTD and never really hid - went from Yeshiva believer in an Elul Zman to working on Shabbos by the time Chanukah came around. Agree with most of this but I do have to disagree with the idea that critical thinking isn’t taught in Yeshiva. Obviously there are topics that are taboo - or even directly enforced as off limits (I’ve been called into the Mashgiach’s office more than once and told not to touch a topic/book etc).

That said critical thinking is very much taught in the Frum system more so than anywhere else I’ve experienced it. If there’s one saving grace of the Frum education I got that left me not knowing what a cell or the periodic table was - it gave me the ability to critically think. Rote memorization was looked down on (and I came from a Cheder that did a lot of that) and the ability to build and take apart arguments using logical inference and comparison tools were perhaps the biggest focus in Yeshiva. Don’t know about the women’s side of the mechitza because I haven’t experienced it but I think part of the challenge yeshivas have is they pump out guys who can shred the arguments for faith if they turn their efforts toward that end. Their saving grace is they produce guys capable of doing effective apologetics too if they so choose (a good critically thinking lawyer can argue for or against any position)

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